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Age : 56
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Personnage préféré : Ianto
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Pairing préféré : Jack/Ianto
Date d'inscription : 29/04/2008

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MessageSujet: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeMer 18 Mar - 16:08

Hello, girlies, i hope you are fine today, here the sun shine a lot, There are even butterflies, bees and wasps, it is almost spring.
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Age : 34
Localisation : Dans ma théière
Personnage préféré : Ianto
Personnage le moins aimé : Vilaine question...je dirais Gwen
Pairing préféré : Vilaine question aussi...Janto
Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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I was so glad I could be outdoors without my sweater, just with my t-shirt... And I loooove my city during spring (not so much in winter, it's too cold, and in summer...well, it depends, but in general it's too hot), and the smell of it...waw!

So I went to my drama school, and we studied the impact of the way we move and of our back (there was a lot of touching so I was a little uncomfortable, but it passed). Then I met a friend and we talked Stargate for an hour and I bought an Hellboy Bubblehead figurine (you know, like the dogs with their wrobbling head that used to stand in the back of some cars) which I'm very proud of.

Oh, and they voted the closure of my university for one more week. It's been almost a month since I've been in class, and I don't know what to think anymore (I'm against the new laws, but I don't want to fail my exams so...)
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Personnage préféré : Ianto Jones
Personnage le moins aimé : Gwen Cooper
Pairing préféré : Jack/Ianto
Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 14:31

Hello my friends!

this morning, I talked with a canadian member on the community "save the coffee boy" and I tell him that I was to shy to comment because I fell insecure of my english. So I want to improve it.

What can I do? I already read fanfiction (for the english of course not for the porn Laughing ) and I watch film and tv show in original version. My dvd of merlin and TW season 2 are the english version, so I read the english subtitles and that help me.


I was thinking to translate my fics, maybe a little every day. Do you think it's a good idea. I will have no very much time this day but I can found moment to translate maybe 100/200 word and post here ?


I hope this babbling don't bother you Wink
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Pairing préféré : Vilaine question aussi...Janto
Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 14:46

You have the basics, the only thing to do is to hear as much english as possible. If you feel insecure with your grammar, every student in English I know (and that includes me) finds the S. Berland-Delephine's "Grammaire Anglaise de l'Etudiant" very well-done and helpful, with a lot of excercises. It might look a little dull but if you want to improve your english it's a must-have. (Sorry for the advertising, I'm not touching any money with that book, promise!)
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Pairing préféré : Jack/Ianto/Gwen
Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 14:50

That's already a good start! and you can continue to read regularly, but it need time to progress (and you to see it).

Translation can be a good thing but be careful not to translate your sentences word after word. Try to have the whole idea of what you want to say first Wink


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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 14:51

no worry!

I have few book, but I'm not enjoing the grammar it's boring, I want to make something more fun with my english, even if it's just talking with you.
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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 14:56

yeah you're right!

Once I translate a english fics in french and if I had translate word to word it was just very bad, so I try to adapt, and make sentences which means the same thing.
It's the same in the other way.

I can try next week and I'll see where I going!
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Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 14:58

Yeah, I can understand that, I love grammar because I want to be a teacher, but I can understand we are only a few to find it utterly fascinating.

Try to write something and have english-speaking people correct it and explain to you why they corrected it. Learn from your mistakes. When you watch a movie, don't just watch the original version, put on the english subtiles, you will remember more if you hear and read at the same time. Try to "think" in english, not just to translate your thoughts in french.
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Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:01

Okay! and if you need help or just show us what you'll translate to see if it's good or not, do it Wink

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Try to "think" in english, not just to translate your thoughts in french.
That's weird at first but now sometimes thinking in english comes so easily lol!


I'm really bad with conjugation and it's hard to be better in it ...
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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:05

"Think in english" it's fun! yeah I will try.

Maybe I can try to write a fics in english, rather to translate. Even if it's very basic ?
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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:09

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Maybe I can try to write a fics in english, rather to translate. Even if it's very basic ?
that's even better! like that you would not have to see or think in french (in your mind) at all ^^
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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:12

ok ! First I finish my vampire fics and next english fics! maybe not a porn fics for begin lol!

I need a idea, but I'm sure I can find one Wink
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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:17

Yeah finish it! I'm so curious to read it!!! Razz


You've plenty of time to write porn maybe later lol!
but it can be a good start if you find nothing else lol

Like you I want to write something in english even a drabble or sthg smaller but no idea comes out of my mind even in french grrr
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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:21

I try to finish today but a need one day more to correct mistake and all. I hope you enjoing it because I loved writing it. Jack/Ianto + vampire is sexy
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Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:25

Surprisingly, porn is easier to write in english, for me anyway (I don't really like writing porn, I found it hilarious when I was 16 but now, not so much...).
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Date d'inscription : 13/03/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:27

You're right to take your time Wink

I'm making some doctor who icons with photoshop ^^

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Surprisingly, porn is easier to write in english, for me anyway (I don't really like writing porn, I found it hilarious when I was 16 but now, not so much...).
It depends how it's written sometimes t's just 'beurkkkk' Rolling Eyes
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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeDim 16 Aoû - 15:31

bad porn silent

when I was 16 , I was so shy, write sex fics Shocked but now it's fun, it's difficult to no doint the same thing all the time, so I try diffenrent way, very sexy, or romantic , blood sex lol!
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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeLun 17 Aoû - 16:21

Porn is less shocking in English because they have plenty of subtle vocabulary. Even rude words sound less rude in English... Maybe because English is more casual?
I don't know, I feel that in French, we're taught to watch our language: even on tv shows, the French dialogues are never coarse ("CSA" 's influence?) so it feels more outrageous when vulgarity slips out.

But anyway, itsuki, to improve your English, watching/listening/reading to English is helpful. Writing in English is great, if you know someone who can correct your mistakes (There are lots of beta readers communities on Livejournal, if it can help). Though, translating your French fanfics into English can be tricky: you chooses this French word because it sounds good, it doesn't mean that, once translated, even if it's a correct and good translation, the fanfic will keep the same atmosphere. See what I mean ?
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Date d'inscription : 14/07/2009

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MessageSujet: Re: good morning, night and cetera   good morning, night and cetera Icon_minitimeLun 17 Aoû - 16:44

I feel exactly the same for english/french rude word. the sound of the word seen less ugly in english.

The the translation I'm ok with you, finaly it's really fun to think and write in english. I make a lot of mistake but it's less difficult that I was thinking
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